There鈥檚 certainly an ongoing and uncivil war between many Republicans and Democrats. But two former Ohio governors have called a truce, and created a friendship.
Though they鈥檙e from different parties, Republican Bob Taft and Democrat Ted Strickland have a lot of views in common.
Bob Taft became governor in 1999. His first year in office, since Ohio revised its death penalty after a US Supreme Court ruling and resumed executions. 24 people were put to death in Taft鈥檚 eight years in office. But he said he felt it was part of the job.
鈥淚 felt that unless there really was a mistake in law or evidence that it should proceed pursuant to law. But having gone through that experience and having examined the death penalty after being out of office, I鈥檓 developing growing reservations about it,鈥� Taft said.
Taft鈥檚 successor Ted Strickland took over in 2007. 17 people were executed during his four years 鈥� including eight in 2010, the largest number in a single year since 1963. Strickland is a former prison psychologist, and said now he wishes he鈥檇 declared a moratorium on capital punishment.
鈥淚 think the death penalty is wrong for a lot of reasons. It鈥檚 unevenly applied. I think there鈥檚 always the danger of an innocent person being killed by the state,鈥� Strickland said.
Execution numbers dropped under Strickland鈥檚 Republican successor John Kasich. And current Republican Gov. Mike DeWine has said that until there鈥檚 a protocol for lethal injection that is upheld by the federal courts 鈥� but he鈥檚 added under state law.
Both Taft and Strickland are also watching DeWine as he deals with gun violence. As he left office in 2006, Taft vetoed 鈥� the legislature overrode him. He said it鈥檚 now time for some reforms.
鈥淲e need very tight background checks in particular. Gov. DeWine鈥檚 program is a good program. I hope the legislature will adopt that program. The 鈥榬ed flag鈥� laws make a lot of sense to me so long as you have proper procedural safeguards. But clearly, we need to keep guns from getting into the hands of wrong people,鈥� Taft said.
Strickland had been endorsed by the National Rifle Association in 2006 and in 2010, when he was defeated by Kasich. But when Strickland ran his unsuccessful campaign against Republican US Sen. Rob Portman in 2016, and now advocates for what he calls reasonable restrictions.
鈥淭he NRA, I think, has gone completely off the rails. I think it鈥檚 become a reactionary organization that鈥檚 not concerned about hunting or sportsmen. It鈥檚 concerned about the gun manufacturers,鈥� Strickland said. 鈥淎nd there鈥檚 an extreme element within our state and within our nation when it comes to this gun issue. And they will not even consider reasonable efforts to prevent gun deaths.鈥�
Taft and Strickland say they have a good relationship 鈥� unlike many Republican and Democratic politicians. And Taft, who has long been considered a moderate, admits he鈥檚 no fan of President Trump.
鈥淚 have concerns with policies on immigration, on trade, on divisiveness as a political strategy. As governor, I tried to bring people together 鈥� I thought I should represent all Ohioans, whether or not they voted for me. So I鈥檓 not a fan of a divisive strategy which I think, it seems to be, that President Trump is following now,鈥� Taft said.
As would be expected, Strickland goes further.
鈥淒onald Trump is an embarrassment 鈥� certainly to the Republican Party 鈥� but he鈥檚 an embarrassment to this country. He鈥檚 unfit and unworthy to be president and I cannot wait to get in there and do everything I can to help whoever runs against him,鈥� Strickland said. And he added: 鈥淛ust some random person out on the street corner would be a more competent president for this country than is Donald Trump.鈥�
But one thing they strongly agree on is Mike DeWine, who they say reached out to them after his election to the office they both once held.
Taft said he likes DeWine鈥檚 focus on kids and Lake Erie, and that he has great respect and admiration for DeWine鈥檚 long career. Strickland, who serves on DeWine鈥檚 RecoveryOhio mental health and substance abuse advisory board, said DeWine is like a breath of fresh air compared to Strickland鈥檚 former opponent Kasich. And Strickland added that it鈥檚 critical for people in office to be genuinely concerned about serving and not about promoting themselves.
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