Earlier this year, police dispatchers in Evansville, Indiana, received a chilling call. A man said he was holding his wife at knifepoint, and he warned police that he was heavily armed.
鈥淚鈥檝e spent the last two days arming my residence against forced police entry, and I鈥檓 armed to the teeth,鈥� he told dispatchers over the phone.
The threat to the man鈥檚 wife wasn鈥檛 real. He was arrested for the improper 911 call while taking out the trash.
But he wasn鈥檛 lying when he said he had a lot of guns. Police found 10 throughout his house, which they confiscated without a warrant under Indiana鈥檚 Red Flag Law.
More and more states are adopting so-called Red Flag Laws in an attempt to curb gun violence. These laws allow police to confiscate guns in an emergency.
Sam Preston has seen it used before.
鈥淨uite often what it looked like would be deputies were responding to someone who's in crisis,鈥� says Preston, who recently left the Vanderburgh County Sheriff鈥檚 Office after 30 years. 鈥淚f there were weapons involved, they would take the opportunity to take the weapons with us.鈥�
Indiana鈥檚 Red Flag Law was passed in 2005 and is one of the oldest in the country. But it isn鈥檛 used a lot.
The Evansville Police Department thinks this is the first time it's taken guns under the law. Preston says the sheriff's office has used it about a half dozen times.
鈥淚 don鈥檛 think that anyone wants to live in a country where people can have their weapons seized and taken away from them,鈥� Preston says.
Preston calls himself a Second Amendment supporter and says the law strikes a good balance.
鈥淲e also do have to protect the public, and just because someone at a moment in time may not be healthy enough for them to have a weapon, doesn't mean that down the road that they won't be able to," Preston says.
Indiana鈥檚 Red Flag Law doesn鈥檛 require officers to obtain a warrant. Without one, police have to get a judge鈥檚 permission to hold onto the weapons.
Preston says judges almost always rule in favor of law enforcement, but the gun owner has the right to ask the court every six months to get the guns back.
Many people whose guns are taken away under the law do eventually get them back.
鈥淚 think most of those crises are short-lived, and in particular talking about people about suicide," says Kent Leslie, who used to work for a local mental health center. He鈥檚 taught classes on mental health issues to law enforcement, medical professionals and the general community.
That included training to prevent suicide by limiting access to guns.
"When somebody鈥檚 at risk of dying by suicide, if we have some distance and time from the lethal means, it does save lives,鈥� Leslie says.
He stresses that the vast majority of people with mental illnesses are not violent, and they鈥檙e much more likely to be the victim of violence than to perpetrate it.
Leslie says that law enforcement is part of larger network of family, friends and health care professionals working to prevent harm.
鈥淚 see the person that has a mental illness or that may be at risk of dying by suicide as the center of a wagon wheel and those spokes that surround that wagon wheel can help that person move forward,鈥� Leslie says. "The more spokes, the better."
Just over half of suicides in the United States . Leslie says Red Flag Laws can help.
Even in a red state like Indiana, which recently hosted the National Rifle Association convention, laws like these have bipartisan support.
鈥淚t's common sense,鈥� says Republican state Rep. Wendy McNamara. 鈥淲e don't want dangerous individuals having access to guns, and if they do, we want to make sure that we find help for these individuals and that their weapons are taken away from them."
This year, McNamara co-sponsored to the Indiana law, and they passed almost unanimously.
The new version allows state police to give the FBI the names of people who鈥檝e had their guns taken away, and it鈥檚 now a crime to supply a gun to those people.
The changes come as other states turn to Indiana for guidance.
Florida passed a Red Flag Law following the school shooting in Parkland in February 2018. Colorado recently became the 15th state to pass one.
鈥淚ndiana has been recognized because we were one of the originals having a Red Flag Law,鈥� McNamara says. 鈥淎 lot of people are looking to Indiana as they go and rewrite their laws on this type of process when it comes to taking away weapons from dangerous individuals."
Back in Evansville, a judge allowed police to keep the guns of the man who made the threatening 911 call. His case on the 911 call is still pending, and his lawyers didn鈥檛 respond to a request for comment.
But Evansville police say the law worked just as it was meant to.
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